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2012 SkS Weekly Digest #10

Posted on 12 March 2012 by John Hartz

SkS Highlights

In a first for an SkS article, Glenn Tamblyn's A Sunburnt Country begins with a poem and ends with a poem. Sandwiched between the two is an analysis of annual global catastrophic events as determined by Munich re, a major global re-insurance company and their relationship to manmade climate change. This article is destined to become a SkS classic. Kudos to Glenn for a job well done.

Also baring their souls were noted climate scientists Michael Mann in the video, Peter Sinclair interview with Michael Mann, and James Hansen in the TED video, James Hansen's Motivation. SkS author, Andy S, also bared his soul in his poignant essay, Changing Climates, Changing Minds: The Personal.

We've been through climate changes before by Sarah, SkS's youngest author, also drew rave reviews and was reposted on Joe Romm's Climate Progress blog. 

Toon of the Week

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 Source: Joe Mohr's Cartoon Archive

Issue of the Week

Have you come across any climate denier memes during the past six months that do not show up on the SkS list of climate myths? If so, what are they and where did you first see them? 

The Week in Review

A complete listing of the articles posted on SkS during the past week. 

  • ‘Storm of the Century’ to become ‘Storm of the Decade’ by John Hartz
  • Changing Climates, Changing Minds: The Great Stink of London by Andy S
  • Changing Climates, Changing Minds: The Personal by Andy S
  • James Hansen's Motivation by Dana
  • Peter Sinclair interview with Michael Mann by Rob Honeycutt
  • We've been through climate changes before by Sarah
  • Interactive mythbusting in Lane Cove by John Cook
  • Lindzen's Junk Science by Dana
  • A Sunburnt Country by Glenn Tamblyn
  • Lindzen's London Illusions by Dana
  • New research from last week 9/2012 by Ari Jokimäki
  • PMO Pest Control: Scientists Robert Way, Albatross, Andy S, climatesight
  • Coming Soon

    A list of articles that are in the SkS pipeline. Most of these articles, but not necessarily all, will be posted during the week. 

  • Prediction: New Surface Temperature Record in 2013 (Dana)
  • New research from last week 10/2012 (Ari Jokimäki)
  • Declining Arctic sea-ice and record U.S. and European snowfalls: are they linked? (John Mason)
  • Roy Spencer's Bad Economics (Dana)
  • Catching up with the Younger Dryas: do mass-extinctions always need impacts? (John Mason)
  • Why David Archibald is wrong about solar cycles driving sea levels: Part 1 (Alex C)
  • Breaking News...The Earth is Warming... Still. A LOT (Glenn Tamblyn)
  • Advancing Climate Science, One Skeptic Talking Point at a Time. (rustneversleeps)
  • The History of Climate Science - William Charles Wells (Doc Snow)
  • Methane - Part 1 (Agnostic)
  • SkS in the News

    Sarah's 'humans have been through climate changes before' rebuttal was re-posted on Climate Progress.

    SkS Spotlights

    The David Suzuki foundation:

    About us

    We work with government, business and individuals to conserve our environment by providing science-based education, advocacy and policy work, and acting as a catalyst for the social change that today's situation demands.

    Our mission and vision

    Our mission is to protect the diversity of nature and our quality of life, now and for the future.

    Our vision is that within a generation, Canadians act on the understanding that we are all interconnected and interdependent with nature.

    Our top goals

    Protecting our climate — ensure that Canada is doing its fair share to avoid dangerous climate change and is on track to achieve a safe level of greenhouse gas emissions.

    Transforming the economy — make certain that Canadians can maintain a high quality of life within the finite limits of nature through efficient resource use.

    Protecting nature — work to protect the diversity and health of Canada's marine, freshwater, and terrestrial creatures and ecosystems.

    Reconnecting with nature — ensure that Canadians, especially youth, learn about their dependence on a healthy environment through outdoor education.

    Building community — engage Canadians to live healthier, more fulfilled and just lives with tips on building Earth-friendly infrastructure, making smart energy choices, using efficient transportation, and being mindful of the products, food and water we use.

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    1. Thanks John for the plaudit.

      But simply, poetry is one of those things that we should be focussing our attention on. Where Climate Change is concerned, one of the most important but least recognised impacts is the cultural losses that might ensue in a climate stressed world. The poems that might be lost. The old languages that vanish because a local indigenous population can no longer survive and still keep their culture intact.

      Not all culture originates in a Shopping Mall. And we are the custodians of all that has gone before us. The more we pass on to the next generation, that they may add to it, the richer our childrens lives are. And the richer our lives are.

      Civilisation is always about taking the past, adding to it and buiding upon it. But never throwing it away without VERY good cause!
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    2. I got a new one that I have not seen before: The Tenacity of Greenland Ice.
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    3. Actually, Trent1492, that's a link to an analysis from a couple of paid misinformers: Craig Idso and Keith Sherwood. Perhaps you could provide your own analysis of the Eldrett et al. 2007 article that I'm betting Idso and Sherwood grossly misread.
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    4. modus operandi for CO2"Science" seems to be to misrepresenting science. Have a look at Eldrett et al 2009 (an update with temperature data).
      "However, the relatively warm summer temperatures
      at that time mean that continental ice on East Greenland
      was probably restricted to alpine outlet glaciers"


      Not exactly the conclusion that the misinformers take. Still want to go there for information? How much misinformation would we have to demonstrate before you stopped visiting them.
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      Moderator Response: [JH] the questions you posed are a tad "over the top." Please keep it civil when addressing another commentator.
    5. @Scaddenp,

      I think you need to reevaluate why I offered that link. Skeptical Science asked, "Have you come across any climate denier memes during the past six months that do not show up on the SkS list of climate myths? If so, what are they and where did you first see them?"

      And so I provided one that I had not seen before. I originally saw it pop it up on a thread over at Scientific American. After perusing the myths list and not seeing it I thought it deserved some mention.

      If we truly want to lead people over to what the science actually says I think a little courtesy at the start of conversation may well be more productive than coming down on somebody with the rhetorical hatchet. And yes, I understand that about 95% of the people on the net who ask "honest" questions are really disingenuous ideologues. Let us remember though that we are writing for that other 5% and most importantly the lurkers.

      Thank you for the link.

      @DSL,

      I did go over to the original article, but it is behind a paywall and I am nowhere near any kind of a expert to pronounce a judgment on it. I can say that comparing what CO2 Science says and what the abstract says I can see one problem already. In the abstract I found this "records of this type from one site alone cannot be used to determine the extent of ice involved."
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      Moderator Response: [JH] I concur that your response to question I had posed was appropriate. Having said that, what, in your opinion, is the new denier meme contained in the paper you have cited.
    6. Trent1492 - my humble apologies. I see your point and I agree that the tone of my response was completely inappropriate. It was a knee-jerk reaction without really properly at the context.
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    7. @JH,

      It is new as a new pseudo-fact. In some ways it is simply a re- manufacturing of the CO2 can't cause much or none at all warming. I had never seen that argument before and so I thought you guys would want to be alerted to it.

      Off topic: I do not know if this would be worth the time and effort but is there anyway you guys could consider categorizing the climate myths alphabetically and by topic such as Cryosphere, Greenland, etc? I think the more ways individual articles are cross referenced the easier they will be to find.
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      Response:

      [DB] Myths are categorized also by Taxonomy.  The alphabetical thing will be taken under advisement, thanks!

    8. @Scaddenp,

      No problem. The irony is that about an hour ago I did the same thing on some poor soul over at Scientific American, but with more venom. I misread the commentator's sarcasm as being earnest and immediately unleashed a barrage of out raged rhetoric. It was not until I actually read the thread that I realize the mistake.

      I think we are all a little traumatized by this wave of anti-science stupidity and need to take a few breaths and moments before hitting the reply button.
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    9. @DB,

      Just want to give you a heads up that the Talk Origins people who combat creationism in the U.S have a wonderful index of debunking articles. I have found it a joy a to navigate. An index like that would be a real help.
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