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1. Glenn Tamblyn at 23:50 PM on 12 March, 2012
   Thanks John for the plaudit. But simply, poetry is one of those things that we should be focussing our attention on. Where Climate Change is concerned, one of the most important but least recognised impacts is the cultural losses that might ensue in a climate stressed world. The poems that might be lost. The old languages that vanish because a local indigenous population can no longer survive and still keep their culture intact. Not all culture originates in a Shopping Mall. And we are the custodians of all that has gone before us. The more we pass on to the next generation, that they may add to it, the richer our childrens lives are. And the richer our lives are. Civilisation is always about taking the past, adding to it and buiding upon it. But never throwing it away without VERY good cause!
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2. Trent1492 at 02:33 AM on 14 March, 2012
   I got a new one that I have not seen before: The Tenacity of Greenland Ice.
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3. DSL at 02:59 AM on 14 March, 2012
   Actually, Trent1492, that's a link to an analysis from a couple of paid misinformers: Craig Idso and Keith Sherwood. Perhaps you could provide your own analysis of the Eldrett et al. 2007 article that I'm betting Idso and Sherwood grossly misread.
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4. scaddenp at 10:18 AM on 14 March, 2012
   modus operandi for CO2"Science" seems to be to misrepresenting science. Have a look at Eldrett et al 2009 (an update with temperature data). "However, the relatively warm summer temperatures at that time mean that continental ice on East Greenland was probably restricted to alpine outlet glaciers" Not exactly the conclusion that the misinformers take. Still want to go there for information? How much misinformation would we have to demonstrate before you stopped visiting them.
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   Moderator Response: [JH] the questions you posed are a tad "over the top." Please keep it civil when addressing another commentator.
5. Trent1492 at 17:11 PM on 14 March, 2012
   @Scaddenp, I think you need to reevaluate why I offered that link. Skeptical Science asked, "Have you come across any climate denier memes during the past six months that do not show up on the SkS list of climate myths? If so, what are they and where did you first see them?" And so I provided one that I had not seen before. I originally saw it pop it up on a thread over at Scientific American. After perusing the myths list and not seeing it I thought it deserved some mention. If we truly want to lead people over to what the science actually says I think a little courtesy at the start of conversation may well be more productive than coming down on somebody with the rhetorical hatchet. And yes, I understand that about 95% of the people on the net who ask "honest" questions are really disingenuous ideologues. Let us remember though that we are writing for that other 5% and most importantly the lurkers. Thank you for the link. @DSL, I did go over to the original article, but it is behind a paywall and I am nowhere near any kind of a expert to pronounce a judgment on it. I can say that comparing what CO2 Science says and what the abstract says I can see one problem already. In the abstract I found this "records of this type from one site alone cannot be used to determine the extent of ice involved."
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   Moderator Response: [JH] I concur that your response to question I had posed was appropriate. Having said that, what, in your opinion, is the new denier meme contained in the paper you have cited.
6. scaddenp at 06:17 AM on 15 March, 2012
   Trent1492 - my humble apologies. I see your point and I agree that the tone of my response was completely inappropriate. It was a knee-jerk reaction without really properly at the context.
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7. Trent1492 at 08:08 AM on 15 March, 2012
   @JH, It is new as a new pseudo-fact. In some ways it is simply a re- manufacturing of the CO2 can't cause much or none at all warming. I had never seen that argument before and so I thought you guys would want to be alerted to it. Off topic: I do not know if this would be worth the time and effort but is there anyway you guys could consider categorizing the climate myths alphabetically and by topic such as Cryosphere, Greenland, etc? I think the more ways individual articles are cross referenced the easier they will be to find.
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   Response:

   [DB] Myths are categorized also by Taxonomy.  The alphabetical thing will be taken under advisement, thanks!

8. Trent1492 at 08:19 AM on 15 March, 2012
   @Scaddenp, No problem. The irony is that about an hour ago I did the same thing on some poor soul over at Scientific American, but with more venom. I misread the commentator's sarcasm as being earnest and immediately unleashed a barrage of out raged rhetoric. It was not until I actually read the thread that I realize the mistake. I think we are all a little traumatized by this wave of anti-science stupidity and need to take a few breaths and moments before hitting the reply button.
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9. Trent1492 at 09:09 AM on 15 March, 2012
   @DB, Just want to give you a heads up that the Talk Origins people who combat creationism in the U.S have a wonderful index of debunking articles. I have found it a joy a to navigate. An index like that would be a real help.
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