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  1. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    The website owners are aware of my name and can certainly add it to letter. However, I'd like to point out that this kind of vitriolic campaign is probably felt by many politicians of all sorts of political stripes around the world. This kind of behavior is more common than you'd like to think.
  2. Rob Honeycutt at 03:14 AM on 2 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Rob Honeycutt, Berkeley CA
  3. Pete Dunkelberg at 03:00 AM on 2 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Please keep up the good work! Everyone needs it, even the nut brigades. Pete Dunkelberg Florida, USA
  4. Help Send Peter Sinclair to the Mt. Baker Glacier
    My two favourite websites happily collide. :)
  5. Madness over sea level rise in North Carolina
    Thank you, Tom Curtis. I just hope you don't expect me to understand those details fully(of course not, what I'm thinking). Detals are usually too technical and difficult for me with less education to understand fully. I'd guess "Devil is in details" to many scientists but to me personally it is the big picture. But of course, the details do help me to understand the big picture better and clearer to satisfy my personal curiosity. As long as I get the basic big picture, I'd rather let the experts sweat over the details. My personal big picture is this. I see AGW as the energy budget. That's it. Because once we got energy on the earth they have to go somewhere in some forms or shapes. Energy just doesn't disappear until dispate out to space. This temperature thing people are talking about seems to me is short sighted. To me it is one of forms of trapped energy apearances/symptoms(told you, I have a simplton's mind). For example latent heat which I've learned new here, the fact the stmosphere is holding more vapor now means holding more latent therman energy in the atmosphere. More ice are metling in water and land and not replenished is thermal energy was turned into water from ice. To me global climate is part of the earth's natural mechanism to even out or dispate or distribute thermal energy she catches from sunlight. More trapped thermal energy means to me is forcing the earth's mechnism/climate to adapt to new paradigm, thus climate changes. Of course, the earth is not standing still so it's dynamic. I think that it tries to reach equilibrium of natural cycles. Some poeple say the unusual warm temperature of 1998 of El Nino was an anomaly. I don't think so because extra heat was coming from the lower layer of oeasns where the heat was stored from the trapped heat above prior which I've learn new here too. So the trapped heat was finally coming out again. Energy doesn't just disappear, I beleive. So I'd foolishly belive we will see another record warm El Nino again someday. I'm probably making a fool of myself but I always wanted to say this somewhere. (and pardon me, english is my learned language)
  6. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Michael Reisner, United States
  7. It's the sun
    Please, please, please, TheCriticalThinker: don't be a hit and run. Come back and defend your theses, or, rather, engage in a mutually beneficial dialogue using those theses as starting points. It would be lovely, lovely, but, I strongly suspect, highly unlikely.
  8. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Be mindful of your safety. Thankyou for your research and courage. William Day Gulf Coast, U.S.A.
  9. Doug Bostrom at 23:32 PM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Douglas Bostrom, Seattle USA
  10. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Peter Bellin, California, USA
  11. michael sweet at 22:26 PM on 1 July 2012
    It's Urban Heat Island effect
    Koyaanisqatsi, When uncorrected data is compared there is no statistical difference between rural and urban sites. GISS has pointed out that they only lower urban measurements. Detailed comparisons show that some urban sites are lower than nearby rural sites. These data are never raised. That means that the UHI corrections result in a small lowering of the estimated temperature trend from the actual trend. The difference is not statistically significant. The estimated trend is left too low to be conservative. UHI is constantly raised by fake skeptics to muddy the waters. In reality, it is a very small effect that does not alter measured temperature trends.
  12. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Ian Dunlop, Sydney, NSW
  13. Glenn Tamblyn at 20:47 PM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Wow I'm away for a day and all you guys pile onto this. Fantastic! Six days to go. Keep those names coming. Even if you are a wallflower who just likes to read, let Phil hear your voice.
  14. TheCriticalThinker at 19:33 PM on 1 July 2012
    It's the sun
    Hi all, I'm a biochemistry student at the University of Oxford, and some of the stuff I'm finding here is shocking. There's a complete lack of adherence to the scientific method, very few peer-reviewed studies and logical fallacies everywhere. Don't even get me started on the science, either.
    Moderator Response: [Rob P] Please note the comments policy. If you're here to discuss actual science, then do so. There are plenty of websites on the internet where empty rhetoric is acceptable. SkS is not one of those sites.
  15. Matt Bennett at 19:26 PM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    These emails are predictably appalling and it is singularly instructive that they lack structure, punctuation, correct spelling and continuity of thought. If these morons cannot even spell, what is the chance of them understanding that climate science has some nuance? Or that it is the hard working climate scientists who are most acting in the service of future humanity? Well done Phil and well done to all working scientists whatever their field of (often thankless) endeavour. You inspire many people on a daily basis and should not forget that. Sign me on. Matt Bennett, Australia.
  16. John Russell at 19:24 PM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    With grateful thanks from rural Devon, UK. @JohnRussell40
  17. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    John Silvester Brisbane Australia
  18. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Sheridan Mayo, Melbourne, Australia
  19. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Bärbel Winkler, Germany
  20. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Bill Ramsay, Wellington, NZ
  21. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Steven Baudoin, USA. If I had seen those comments posted publicly, I would have thought some of them were from the Onion. Hard to believe people can be so vitriolic over scientific research.
  22. Seagrasses Can Store as Much Carbon as Forests
    The good news it that sea grass thrives in slightly more acidic water and, as noted in the article, is relatively good at sequestering carbon. Moreover, beds of sea grass provide a nursery for many fish species and an essential food source dugong. The bad news is that human activity is diminishing the extent and health of sea grass beds, primarily through water pollution. What may also be bad news is the ability of sea grass to survive ocean warming and continue to sequester carbon. Warming oceans will certainly reduce the amount of CO2 stored in seawater and may cause its release from seabed soil. Has NSF research investigated the effect of increased ocean temperature on sea grass health and stability of carbon sequestered by it? Someone should.
  23. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Don't listen to the cowardly threats of these mercenaries of the oil and resources industries. Earth's future depends on people like you providing facts that expose the propaganda of powerful evil corporations for what it is -selfish greed. In Australia recently, a past prime minister (a "closet denier") speaking at the launch of an new Ian Plimer book, objected to the term "Denier" being used to describe those who reject anthropogenic global warming, because of it's past association with Hitlers evil attempted extermination of a race of people. On the contrary, I think it is a very apt term to describe those, who through misrepresentation of scientific facts cause the continuation of CO2 generating industries, with the near certainty of destroying Earths habitable environment. Billions of people, are expected to be unable to survive resulting climate change over the next 100 or so years - not to mention the devastating effect on animal life. Hitler's extermination efforts pale in comparison!! Keep up the good work - the essential truth must prevail. John Bloomfield, Australia.
  24. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Thank you Phil Jones for having the courage to continue with your valuable work. Tim Wilcox. UK
  25. It's Urban Heat Island effect
    koyaanisqatsi I infer from the lack of the term 'adjusted' (figure 1 - basic) that Jones et al is comparing unadjusted rural and urban temperature stations and finding little difference. "[NASA GISS] found in most cases, urban warming was small and fell within uncertainty ranges. Surprisingly, 42% of city trends are cooler relative to their country surroundings..." So it reads as if A) UHIE is small and B) UHIE is corrected for, although though the aggregate of the corrections makes a negligible difference to the temperature record anyway.
  26. Michaels and Cato Unwittingly Accept the Climate Threat
    BTW, I do realize that some conservatives will still see Cap and Trade mean too much government intervention in markets. Fine....you can't win them all with one strategy...but hey....it's Ronnie Reagan...the Gipper. It's hard for conservatives to call him a socialist leader who was seeking one world government.
  27. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Andreas Kieser, Germany
  28. Michaels and Cato Unwittingly Accept the Climate Threat
    I don't think it matters if other policies for reducing acid rain would have been just as effective. What matters on this point is that Cap and Trade uses market forces and was implemented by the Republican Party (i.e. Conservatives). One of the key problems we face is dealing with those whose ideologies may lead them to doubt global warming because they believe/have been told it is only a way to implement government based (taxes and/or straight regulation) solutions. If it can be shown that market or conservative initiated solutions can be used, those who are open to rational argument may be more open to the science. This doesn't mean a variety of methods cannot be be effective but anything that gets a reluctant person to be more open to the science is a worthwhile point to make.
  29. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    My real name is known by the hosts of this site and the recent hackers of this site, so I don't see it necessary to sign it here too. Still waiting my first hatemail by these 18th century engineers (they must be for it seems they do not understand the principles of steam engines), whose mentality (in the nastier sense) you've had the displeasure to experience. Strenght to you. jyyh, Finland.
  30. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Wayne Fowler, Canada
  31. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    June 26, 2012: 109ºF in Austin, TX, the highest temperature ever recorded for the month of June. On the same day, I attended a hearing of the Energy Commitee of the Texas State Legislature where oil, gas, and coal extraction were discussed, along with fracking techniques and pipeline construction. These wealthy men (and a smattering of women) egged each other on in an air-conditioned room, while most in attendance were wearing wool suits. NO ONE mentioned anthropogenic climate change. As I stepped out into the heat, I realized that I had never seen anything more absurd and at the same time more dangerous in all my life. Dr. Jones, we need your voice now more than ever. Craig Nazor, Austin, Texas
  32. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Jim Java, NY, USA
  33. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    BJ Chippindale, NZ Dr Jones, you have done well, and the future will know you gave us the best science you could give.
  34. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    We should all endeavour to keep up with the Phil Joneses of this world. Tristan Gall Brisbane, AU
  35. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Neal J. King Munich, GERMANY
  36. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Richard Mercer California, USA
  37. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    John Garrett California, USA
  38. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    I recently sent a personal email to Mike Mann to thank him for all his efforts, both in climate studies, and in combating the "denialist" crowd. Just did the same for Phil Jones. Pleased to add my name to this list also. Thanks for the good work, Phil! Dave Willis, Quebec, Canada
  39. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Chris Hawkshaw, Sydney, Australia
  40. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Thank you for your courage. Teresa Baker, USA
  41. littlerobbergirl at 11:57 AM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Christina West, Hampshire, England. Oh, brave new world!
  42. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Good luck, Larry Johnson Illinois, USA
  43. It's Urban Heat Island effect
    I'll think on this. But I'm confused about something. In the Basic explanation of why UHI Effect is not influencing temperature trends, it states "the difference between ideal rural sites compared to urban sites in temperature trends has been very small." [2nd Paragraph, just before Figure 1] In the Intermediate explanation, it is stated [in the First Paragraph] "They compare urban long term trends to nearby rural trends. They then adjust the urban trend so it matches the rural trend. The process is described in detail on the NASA website (Hansen 2001)." So of course the urban and rural trends *should* be the same, because of the adjustment. Am I missing the obvious?
  44. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    The truth wil eventually win out.. Peter Dyson, Victoria, Australia
  45. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Was at UEA in early 1990s - Nice town Norwich. Duncan Farrow, Perth Western Australia
  46. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Lloyd Flack, East Ryde NSW, Australia
  47. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Bob Warneke, Austin, TX, USA
  48. citizenschallenge at 10:27 AM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Peter Miesler Colorado, USA hang in there Dr. Jones
  49. technophile50 at 10:23 AM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Brian Dodge, Hillsborough, North Carolina - where they're commanding the sea not to rise nonlinearly.
  50. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Ray Mainsbridge Australis

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