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Philip64 at 06:47 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Philip Sington London, UK The best response to ignorance is the truth. Keep it coming, no matter what. -
DrYew at 06:46 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Dr Jonathan McKenna, Buckinghamshire, UK -
Susan Anderson at 06:40 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Philip W. Anderson, Princeton, USA is delighted to support Dr. Phil Jones. -
giniajim at 06:37 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Jim Lynch, in King George, Va. Echoing Alexandre's sentiment; you guys are modern day heroes! -
Daved Green at 06:25 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
David Green Australia . -
raywey at 06:11 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Proud to add my name to support Phil -Ray Weymann -
wili at 05:51 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
John Harkness, USA -
Zeboo at 05:49 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Some times you have to take a stand.... Bo Norrman, Sweden "First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me." Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) -
renemor at 05:46 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
René Moreau, Brussels, Belgium -
r.pauli at 05:18 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Richard Pauli Seattle, Washington Lets not forget that organized and well funded cyber sweatshops are created for just this kind PR manipulation. One goal is to promote confusion, and another is to torment and tarnish heroes. Such acts by our adversaries can amount to high praise. About 10 years ago, I recall scanning the web for more information about climate issues. It was just this kind of crude denialism that pushed me to discover both Climate Progress and Real Climate - sites I would have discovered far later without the vitriol directed their way. From the very beginning, the Web has been a battleground of public opinion. Fortunately there are tremendous resources that trump the purposeful misinformation and distraction. Whenever rash cyber-bullying is involved, it should suggest the issue is worth careful consideration. Thanks Skeptical Science for all that you do. -
piloot at 05:04 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Emile Nossin, Netherlands -
jpg15 at 05:04 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Thanks for your efforts so far. Jonathan Grove, Cambridge, UK -
Jerry at 04:59 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Jerry Gardner, Keaau, Hawaii -
parobinson at 04:43 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Paul Robinson, Ontario, Canada -
Sarah at 04:31 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Sarah Green, Michigan, USA -
Terry at 04:03 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Heroic work you are doing. Terry Moran, Ontario Canada -
Michael.M at 04:00 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
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Daniel J. Andrews at 03:46 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Jack (aka Daniel) Andrews, Ontario, Canada I'm sickened by the actions of bullies--I despise them--and I'm happy to add my name for support. If there is any way I can help you (financial or otherwise) against these bullies, let me know. -
Dave123 at 03:15 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
The website owners are aware of my name and can certainly add it to letter. However, I'd like to point out that this kind of vitriolic campaign is probably felt by many politicians of all sorts of political stripes around the world. This kind of behavior is more common than you'd like to think. -
Rob Honeycutt at 03:14 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Rob Honeycutt, Berkeley CA -
Pete Dunkelberg at 03:00 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Please keep up the good work! Everyone needs it, even the nut brigades. Pete Dunkelberg Florida, USA -
Tristan at 02:33 AM on 2 July 2012Help Send Peter Sinclair to the Mt. Baker Glacier
My two favourite websites happily collide. :) -
CRV9 at 02:33 AM on 2 July 2012Madness over sea level rise in North Carolina
Thank you, Tom Curtis. I just hope you don't expect me to understand those details fully(of course not, what I'm thinking). Detals are usually too technical and difficult for me with less education to understand fully. I'd guess "Devil is in details" to many scientists but to me personally it is the big picture. But of course, the details do help me to understand the big picture better and clearer to satisfy my personal curiosity. As long as I get the basic big picture, I'd rather let the experts sweat over the details. My personal big picture is this. I see AGW as the energy budget. That's it. Because once we got energy on the earth they have to go somewhere in some forms or shapes. Energy just doesn't disappear until dispate out to space. This temperature thing people are talking about seems to me is short sighted. To me it is one of forms of trapped energy apearances/symptoms(told you, I have a simplton's mind). For example latent heat which I've learned new here, the fact the stmosphere is holding more vapor now means holding more latent therman energy in the atmosphere. More ice are metling in water and land and not replenished is thermal energy was turned into water from ice. To me global climate is part of the earth's natural mechanism to even out or dispate or distribute thermal energy she catches from sunlight. More trapped thermal energy means to me is forcing the earth's mechnism/climate to adapt to new paradigm, thus climate changes. Of course, the earth is not standing still so it's dynamic. I think that it tries to reach equilibrium of natural cycles. Some poeple say the unusual warm temperature of 1998 of El Nino was an anomaly. I don't think so because extra heat was coming from the lower layer of oeasns where the heat was stored from the trapped heat above prior which I've learn new here too. So the trapped heat was finally coming out again. Energy doesn't just disappear, I beleive. So I'd foolishly belive we will see another record warm El Nino again someday. I'm probably making a fool of myself but I always wanted to say this somewhere. (and pardon me, english is my learned language) -
mreisner at 01:06 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
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DSL at 00:40 AM on 2 July 2012It's the sun
Please, please, please, TheCriticalThinker: don't be a hit and run. Come back and defend your theses, or, rather, engage in a mutually beneficial dialogue using those theses as starting points. It would be lovely, lovely, but, I strongly suspect, highly unlikely. -
wm329 at 00:03 AM on 2 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Be mindful of your safety. Thankyou for your research and courage. William Day Gulf Coast, U.S.A. -
Doug Bostrom at 23:32 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Douglas Bostrom, Seattle USA -
pbellin at 22:34 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Peter Bellin, California, USA -
michael sweet at 22:26 PM on 1 July 2012It's Urban Heat Island effect
Koyaanisqatsi, When uncorrected data is compared there is no statistical difference between rural and urban sites. GISS has pointed out that they only lower urban measurements. Detailed comparisons show that some urban sites are lower than nearby rural sites. These data are never raised. That means that the UHI corrections result in a small lowering of the estimated temperature trend from the actual trend. The difference is not statistically significant. The estimated trend is left too low to be conservative. UHI is constantly raised by fake skeptics to muddy the waters. In reality, it is a very small effect that does not alter measured temperature trends. -
Ian Dunlop at 22:02 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Ian Dunlop, Sydney, NSW -
Glenn Tamblyn at 20:47 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Wow I'm away for a day and all you guys pile onto this. Fantastic! Six days to go. Keep those names coming. Even if you are a wallflower who just likes to read, let Phil hear your voice. -
TheCriticalThinker at 19:33 PM on 1 July 2012It's the sun
Hi all, I'm a biochemistry student at the University of Oxford, and some of the stuff I'm finding here is shocking. There's a complete lack of adherence to the scientific method, very few peer-reviewed studies and logical fallacies everywhere. Don't even get me started on the science, either.Moderator Response: [Rob P] Please note the comments policy. If you're here to discuss actual science, then do so. There are plenty of websites on the internet where empty rhetoric is acceptable. SkS is not one of those sites. -
Matt Bennett at 19:26 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
These emails are predictably appalling and it is singularly instructive that they lack structure, punctuation, correct spelling and continuity of thought. If these morons cannot even spell, what is the chance of them understanding that climate science has some nuance? Or that it is the hard working climate scientists who are most acting in the service of future humanity? Well done Phil and well done to all working scientists whatever their field of (often thankless) endeavour. You inspire many people on a daily basis and should not forget that. Sign me on. Matt Bennett, Australia. -
John Russell at 19:24 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
With grateful thanks from rural Devon, UK. @JohnRussell40 -
sol6966 at 17:53 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
John Silvester Brisbane Australia -
SCM at 17:30 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Sheridan Mayo, Melbourne, Australia -
BaerbelW at 17:08 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Bärbel Winkler, Germany -
billr at 17:03 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Bill Ramsay, Wellington, NZ -
Estiben at 16:59 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Steven Baudoin, USA. If I had seen those comments posted publicly, I would have thought some of them were from the Onion. Hard to believe people can be so vitriolic over scientific research. -
Riduna at 16:56 PM on 1 July 2012Seagrasses Can Store as Much Carbon as Forests
The good news it that sea grass thrives in slightly more acidic water and, as noted in the article, is relatively good at sequestering carbon. Moreover, beds of sea grass provide a nursery for many fish species and an essential food source dugong. The bad news is that human activity is diminishing the extent and health of sea grass beds, primarily through water pollution. What may also be bad news is the ability of sea grass to survive ocean warming and continue to sequester carbon. Warming oceans will certainly reduce the amount of CO2 stored in seawater and may cause its release from seabed soil. Has NSF research investigated the effect of increased ocean temperature on sea grass health and stability of carbon sequestered by it? Someone should. -
JohnB6223 at 16:42 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Don't listen to the cowardly threats of these mercenaries of the oil and resources industries. Earth's future depends on people like you providing facts that expose the propaganda of powerful evil corporations for what it is -selfish greed. In Australia recently, a past prime minister (a "closet denier") speaking at the launch of an new Ian Plimer book, objected to the term "Denier" being used to describe those who reject anthropogenic global warming, because of it's past association with Hitlers evil attempted extermination of a race of people. On the contrary, I think it is a very apt term to describe those, who through misrepresentation of scientific facts cause the continuation of CO2 generating industries, with the near certainty of destroying Earths habitable environment. Billions of people, are expected to be unable to survive resulting climate change over the next 100 or so years - not to mention the devastating effect on animal life. Hitler's extermination efforts pale in comparison!! Keep up the good work - the essential truth must prevail. John Bloomfield, Australia. -
Dibble at 16:41 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Thank you Phil Jones for having the courage to continue with your valuable work. Tim Wilcox. UK -
Tristan at 16:29 PM on 1 July 2012It's Urban Heat Island effect
koyaanisqatsi I infer from the lack of the term 'adjusted' (figure 1 - basic) that Jones et al is comparing unadjusted rural and urban temperature stations and finding little difference. "[NASA GISS] found in most cases, urban warming was small and fell within uncertainty ranges. Surprisingly, 42% of city trends are cooler relative to their country surroundings..." So it reads as if A) UHIE is small and B) UHIE is corrected for, although though the aggregate of the corrections makes a negligible difference to the temperature record anyway. -
rugbyguy59 at 16:17 PM on 1 July 2012Michaels and Cato Unwittingly Accept the Climate Threat
BTW, I do realize that some conservatives will still see Cap and Trade mean too much government intervention in markets. Fine....you can't win them all with one strategy...but hey....it's Ronnie Reagan...the Gipper. It's hard for conservatives to call him a socialist leader who was seeking one world government. -
ajki at 16:14 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Andreas Kieser, Germany -
rugbyguy59 at 16:14 PM on 1 July 2012Michaels and Cato Unwittingly Accept the Climate Threat
I don't think it matters if other policies for reducing acid rain would have been just as effective. What matters on this point is that Cap and Trade uses market forces and was implemented by the Republican Party (i.e. Conservatives). One of the key problems we face is dealing with those whose ideologies may lead them to doubt global warming because they believe/have been told it is only a way to implement government based (taxes and/or straight regulation) solutions. If it can be shown that market or conservative initiated solutions can be used, those who are open to rational argument may be more open to the science. This doesn't mean a variety of methods cannot be be effective but anything that gets a reluctant person to be more open to the science is a worthwhile point to make. -
jyyh at 16:11 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
My real name is known by the hosts of this site and the recent hackers of this site, so I don't see it necessary to sign it here too. Still waiting my first hatemail by these 18th century engineers (they must be for it seems they do not understand the principles of steam engines), whose mentality (in the nastier sense) you've had the displeasure to experience. Strenght to you. jyyh, Finland. -
rugbyguy59 at 15:42 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Wayne Fowler, Canada -
Craig Nazor at 15:36 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
June 26, 2012: 109ºF in Austin, TX, the highest temperature ever recorded for the month of June. On the same day, I attended a hearing of the Energy Commitee of the Texas State Legislature where oil, gas, and coal extraction were discussed, along with fracking techniques and pipeline construction. These wealthy men (and a smattering of women) egged each other on in an air-conditioned room, while most in attendance were wearing wool suits. NO ONE mentioned anthropogenic climate change. As I stepped out into the heat, I realized that I had never seen anything more absurd and at the same time more dangerous in all my life. Dr. Jones, we need your voice now more than ever. Craig Nazor, Austin, Texas -
priscian at 15:28 PM on 1 July 2012Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
Jim Java, NY, USA
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