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Back from the Dead: Lost Open Mind Posts

Posted on 29 December 2010 by Daniel Bailey

You can admit it, it's happened to all of us at one time or another:  that savored Open Mind post you'd bookmarked oh-so-long-ago has come up missing.  What to do?  Where to look?

"There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man ... a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of... the Internet.  
A place where found things become lost and lost things become found.  Where blog posts can disappear and come back again.  Consider if you will, one such blog, Open Mind"
   -Rod Serling (paraphrased)

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  1. Note:

    Due to database limitations, the remaining Open Mind post listings are in this comment.


    Posted on November 9th, 2011
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  2. Shouldn't that last Rod Sterling quote say "For civilization to survive, the human race has to become civilized"?
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  3. Thank you for posting this!!!!
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  4. Thanks Daniel, you have helped me before with those links. This Wayback Machine amazes and puzzles me, it must be a huge memory bank. I wonder what was is made for in the first place (apart from helping us retrieving these great long gone webpages for free, of course).
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  5. Bookmarked, many thanks.

    The whole legal situation with that archive is interesting, though. Firstly, of course, there's the question of copyright: just because a page is available for public reading I don't see that it follows that it's licensed for anybody to come along, take a copy and display it on another site. Secondly, presumably Tamino or his ISP removed the pages in question due to some legal threat so I wonder why that wouldn't apply to the archive as well.

    And, yes, I'm puzzled by the motivation as well but grateful in this case.
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  6. The "Uncivil War" post from 2007 is most intriguing. In it, a mellower Tamino calls for civility between the sides of the climate debate. Contrast that with the hard edged, Watts-baiting Tamino of today, who abruptly cuts off "skeptics" who comment in his blog, usually with a remark about their meager mental abilities.

    Like most of us, he has become exasperated with the obdurate ignorance of climate "skeptics". Being civil with them is useless; they are a waste of time and Tamino has realized it. I like the 2010 Tamino better than the 2007 one.
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  7. Thank you for indexing these.
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  8. 'The "Uncivil War" post from 2007 is most intriguing. In it, a mellower Tamino calls for civility between the sides of the climate debate. Contrast that with the hard edged, Watts-baiting Tamino of today, who abruptly cuts off "skeptics" who comment in his blog, usually with a remark about their meager mental abilities.'

    You know ... over the last several months I've come close to teasing him about that, because I was one of the obnoxious, impatient people he was telling to cool it and be nice. Now, he's meaner than me...
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  9. Meaner, with much sharper skills!
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  10. why were these posts lost in the first place?
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  11. Steve @9,

    It (indirectly) had something to do with the actions of a certain vindictive contrarian/"skeptic".
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  12. Thank you very much, I have long searched for Taminos old post!
    I would also like to know why they were deleted from his blog, I have never read something about this in his blog.
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  13. Thank you Daniel - brilliant stuff.
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  14. Thanks to all for the kind words. This index is for all of you. If there are any favorites, please save them for off-line perusal, as relying upon the Archives to always find them is a bit like storing your computer files in the "to be deleted" bin.

    As to the actual reasons for the limbo status of the posts, others have commented already. Not my place to offer up further on that.

    If anyone finds any of the posts between August 2008 and March 2010 let me know so I can append them to this index. I delved as deeply into the Archives as is possible, I believe (I found about a dozen more posts than the Archive search function did).
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  15. Thanks for doing this Daniel, very much appreciated.
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  16. Added Central England Temperature, April 28, 2008.

    Guess there's still more out there.

    The Yooper
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  17. can take you back less. There you can find many more missing links from Aug 2008 to May 2009.
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  18. Daniel Bailey,
    Thanks for a very interesting post. While no fan of Tamino, I plan to wade through the links you provided.

    Meanwhile, here is a link to part 2 of my musings on Greenland:

    As luck would have it, Don Easterbrook did something very similar that appeared a couple of days earlier:
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  19. GC @17,

    "While no fan of Tamino"

    I can see that you would not like Tamino when you link us to WUWT and Don Easterbook. Both of those sources have no credibility whatsoever. Here is one recent example of Easterbrook fiddling the numbers, and here is another. We do not have time to deal with Mr. Watts, although many of the above posts by Tamino are thorough debunkings of Watts.

    I dare not guess who you will link us to next-- Goddard, Ball, de Freitas, Monckton?

    Oh well, at least you are open to the idea of reading Tamino's posts.
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  20. Re: mdenison (16)

    Thanks so much for pointing that out! I was able to tease out posts up until the end of June, 2009. Also nabbed a bunch of missing posts prior to August 2008 as well.

    Updated and revised main post at top accordingly.

    Thanks again!

    The Yooper
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  21. Can we add "Tales from the thermometer" to the top?

    It's the one referenced in the "Temp Record is Unreliable" post, but the link doesn't work, the replay machine did find it as above, though...

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    Moderator Response: [Daniel Bailey] Thanks, I'll take care of it!
  22. Added 5 more posts from November, 2006:
    Nov 8, 2006 Tales from the Thermometer

    Nov 9, 2006 Hockey Sticks

    Nov 10, 2006 CO2: They call it "life"...

    Nov 10, 2006 For the Love of it!

    Nov 11, 2006 Days of Wine and Roses
    The Yooper
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  23. Superb archive and thanks for the resource. Tamino has a great knack of providing both accessible and robust statistical analyses, and it is gratifying to know that at least some of his earlier work has been recovered. I did a search for his 'Riddle Me This' post which in the past I used to link to on many occasions to rebut the 'global warming has stopped' arguments. It has been lost from Tamino's site but an archived copy of it appears here. It is well worth a look, as is one of his very recent posts here which is in a slightly different way an update to 2010, though only using annual data and GISS. The earlier post included multiple sources at monthly resolution which made it so powerful.

    I do not know if climatechangepsychology has other of Tamino's more recent lost posts, but may be worth a closer look, googling Tamiono specifically at that site brings up quite a few hits.
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    Moderator Response: [Daniel Bailey] Thanks, I'll look into Tenney's site for more Tamino posts archived there & add them to the main post above when I get the chance!
  24. Added lost Open Mind links through December 31, 2009.

    H/T to Open Mind reader DTurtle.

    The Yooper
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  25. FYI: Tamino has added this effort to his blogroll at Open Mind.

    Thanks again to all who have contributed.

    Missing a few scattered posts here and there but, except for January and February 2010, all now accounted for (remainder of 2010 to present still linked at Open Mind).

    The Yooper
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  26. Added the following 9 posts from January 2007:

    Jan 9, 2007 Ice Ages

    Jan 11, 2007 The Latest from GISS

    Jan 12, 2007 Red White & Blue (noise, that is)

    Jan 15, 2007 Calling All Science Teachers

    Jan 16, 2007 On the Edge

    Jan 17, 2007 This Blog is Different

    Jan 18, 2007 Ocean Heat Content

    Jan 18, 2007 Time to get interesting … or boring, depending on your perspective

    Jan 20, 2007 Leafy CO2
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  27. It was a good day, it was a bad day; added 3 months of posts long thought lost:

    Jan 13, 2010 Models

    Jan 19, 2010 Hottest Year

    Jan 27, 2010 Post Dispatch

    Jan 30, 2010 It’s a slow week

    Feb 4, 2010 Skikda

    Feb 6, 2010 Gridiron Games

    Feb 8, 2010 Combining Stations

    Feb 8, 2010 The Real Climate McCarthy

    Feb 13, 2010 Prime Meridian

    Feb 15, 2010 Dropouts

    Feb 15, 2010 Open Thread #18

    Feb 15, 2010 Summer and Smoke

    Feb 16, 2010 Growthgate

    Feb 18, 2010 Cherry Snow

    Feb 22, 2010 Statistical Geometry

    Feb 22, 2010 Snow

    Feb 23, 2010 GHCN: preliminary results

    Feb 25, 2010 False Claims Proven False

    Feb 25, 2010 Shame

    Feb 25, 2010 Interesting Comment

    Feb 25, 2010 Show and Tell

    Feb 26, 2010 Thanks

    Feb 28, 2010 Update

    Mar 1, 2010 Replication, not repetition

    Mar 5, 2010 Global Update

    Mar 5, 2010 Message to Anthony Watts

    Mar 11, 2010 Update, and a good post by the Rabett

    Mar 11, 2010 Not a Random Walk

    Mar 16, 2010 Still Not

    Mar 21, 2010 The Power — and Perils — of Statistics

    Mar 22, 2010 Good Bayes Gone Bad

    Mar 24, 2010 Bad Bayes Gone Bad

    Mar 25, 2010 Temporarily Offline
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  28. You rock Daniel. Thanks!
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  29. Added the following:

    Nov 12, 2006 Picking Cherries

    Nov 15, 2006 Who the heck started all this global warming fuss anyway?

    Nov 17, 2006 Monckton part ?

    Nov 21, 2006 The Thermometer Record

    Nov 27, 2006 Warming up to Iceland

    Nov 30, 2006 Supreme Court

    Nov 30, 2006 True Grit

    Dec 4, 2006 Wherefore art thou warming? -Still Missing-

    Dec 5, 2006 Wherefore art thou warming? Part 2

    Dec 7, 2006 Honest doubt, honestly expressed -Still Missing-

    Dec 7, 2006 Questiones Naturales -Still Missing-

    Dec 9, 2006 Models on the Table -Still Missing-

    Dec 11, 2006 Balloons and other things

    Dec 12, 2006 Clearing the Air

    Dec 15, 2006 Moosehead Lake

    Dec 17, 2006 Al Gore

    Dec 28, 2006 Svalbard Saga

    Dec 31, 2006 Weighting for Averages

    Jan 5, 2007 Temperature Records of the Week

    Jan 9, 2007 The Signs are Everywhere -Still Missing-

    Jan 13, 2007 Coming soon to a blog near you -Still Missing-

    Jan 14, 2007 Once More, with Feeling -Still Missing-

    Jan 23, 2007 Change in the Wind -Still Missing-

    Jan 24, 2007 Here Comes the Sun, part 2 -Still Missing-

    Feb 15, 2007 Millerism -Still Missing-

    Feb 24, 2007 Question for Believers -Still Missing-

    Feb 24, 2007 Water, Water, Everywhere,

    Feb 26, 2007 Congratulations, Al -Still Missing-

    Mar 6, 2007 Fast CO2 -Still Missing-

    Mar 7, 2007 Questions and Answers

    Mar 13, 2007 The Long, Hot Winter -Still Missing-

    Mar 15, 2007 Crisis?

    Apr 11, 2007 A Tale of Two Cities

    Apr 15, 2007 Temperature Records of the Week: Shelby County, Tennessee

    Apr 17, 2007 Pay It Forward -Still Missing-

    Apr 27, 2007 Debate Numbers -Still Missing-

    May 30, 2007 Note to readers

    Oct 5, 2007 Wait For It... -Still Missing-

    Oct 19, 2007 IPC projection falsified

    Nov 4, 2008 Northern Ice Northern Ice

    Nov 5, 2008 Yes We Can -Still Missing-

    July 8, 2009 Vapor Lock

    July 13, 2009 Why should we make sacrifices?

    July 14, 2009 Warming, Interrupted?

    Aug 4, 2009 Influence of the Southern Oscillation on tropospheric temperature

    Aug 5, 2009 Open Thread #15

    Aug 6, 2009 Graph Jam

    Aug 12, 2009 Monbiot vs Plimer

    Aug 19, 2009 CO2 and the Volcanoes

    Aug 22, 2009 Constant

    Aug 23, 2009 Sea Floor Gas

    Aug 24, 2009 Methane North and South

    Aug 26, 2009 Loony bin
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  30. I was able to get to a "still missing" tamino post:  Oct 5, 2007 Wait for it...

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    Moderator Response: [DB] Added, thanks!
  31. Also, the link at Oct 19, 2007: IPC projection falsified is actually for Oct 19, 2008.

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    Moderator Response: [DB] Fixed; thanks!

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