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  1. Vanishing Arctic Sea Ice: Going Up the Down Escalator
    @ dana1981 #27: I do believe that you are being a tad too harsh on Watts. After all, he and the Wattsonians come from a parallel universe where the laws of physics and chemistry are entirely diffeerent than those that apply here on Earth.
  2. A vivid demonstration of knee-jerk science rejection
    philipm, The first graph is used in many posts here (example) and originally comes from Murphy et al 2009. The second is also used in many posts here (example) and originally comes from Foster and Rahmstorf 2009. The third originally comes from Santer et al 2011, discussed here at SkS and mentioned in many other posts. If you right-click on each image you can obtain the URL for the image hosted by SkS.
  3. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    "Rapid rebound in bulb luminosity confirms theory that low amount was because of storm causing abnormal min"
  4. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    I trust that the following will not offend... "Man may have made the bulb, but only God has the power to turn on the electricity."
  5. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    It's hard to stop a moving object... "Wipe off those fingerprints on the bulb before you screw it it. We don't want people to learn who made it and where it came from."
  6. A vivid demonstration of knee-jerk science rejection
    Blogger's Hall of Amnesia As well as McIntyre – the man who chucked around allegations first and then got round to checking his Inbox – it’s:
    Dr Roger Pielke Jr (he replied to the initial contact) Mr Marc Morano (of Climatedepot; he replied to the initial contact) Dr Roy Spencer (no reply) Mr Robert Ferguson (of the Science and Public Policy Institute, no reply) It will be noted that all 4 have publically stated during the last few days/weeks that they were not contacted.
  7. New research from last week 36/2012
    Yes, our salvation undoubtedly lies in Tupperware, lots of it. We'll need the UN world government to enforce purchases but that can easily be woven into Agenda 21. Anybody found cracking PE and attempting to make moonshine go-juice can be sent for a "moon landing," heh-heh-heh.
  8. Do we know when the Arctic will be sea ice-free?
    "Unless you are a scholar and a well known scientist, no one may seriously listen to what you say, write or research. I am not a scientist but an electronic engineer with long years of interest in geology and history." Umm...did anyone *else* get hit by the low-flying Irony Horse? Astrofos, I would indeed ask you, AGAIN, to justify your earlier comments, pointed out by Daniel Bailey, plus now please explain why anything you say should be taken as authoritative from this point on. FYI: I have a bit more than an "interest" in geology: i have a degree and 14 years of experience in the field.
  9. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    But it was much darker during the MWP!
  10. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    'Living rooms have been brighter in the past!' I'm rather disappointed LA21 hasn't been mentioned yet. And, of course, the Illuminati (boom boom!)
  11. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    "How many Wattsians does it take to install a CFL? NONE! They all deny they work!" John Hartz, you are on a roll...I canna resist!
  12. New research from last week 36/2012
    Doug, we were warned.... Just one word >;-/
  13. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Eric wrote: "Most skeptics agree in principle on the need for a new light bulb, but believe that the modeled light output of most light bulbs is exaggerated by a factor of two." Sounds about right... given that the modeled output of the light bulbs would (like climate models) have been refined until it matched actual observed output. So, restated; 'Most 'skeptics' believe that observed reality is exaggerated by a factor of two.'
  14. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    "The bulb is just poorly sited - see my pretty pictures??!!" "The bulb will change itself"
  15. AGU Fall Meeting sessions on social media, misinformation and uncertainty
    Australian Climate Madness I just love that! Sounds as though the name was chosen in a moment of irrational exuberance, too hastily to realize the double entendre. My immediate association on seeing the words: "coal exports."
  16. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Sorry, but the ideas just keep coming: "Say 'Ad hominem attack' three times before you start."
  17. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    "Switching on my lightbulb* won't make any difference, and it will blow out my power bill." [*Sadly, there is evidence that illumination doesn't work for some - it's the King Arnulf Effect.]
  18. Do we know when the Arctic will be sea ice-free?
    In case anyone missed it, Astrofos is trying to poe Lewendansky's survey subject.
  19. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Yet another: "Put on your Galileo T-shirt before you screw it in."
  20. Vanishing Arctic Sea Ice: Going Up the Down Escalator
    Daneel @26 - Let's be fair to Watts. That graphic would indeed show a quick sea ice extent recovery if you would just flip it upside-down. I'm sure that's what he meant. After all, Watts seems to view the world upside-down and backwards.
  21. AGU Fall Meeting sessions on social media, misinformation and uncertainty
    I have notice that Australian Climate Madness and Climate Depot are prominently featuring a misinterpretation of my words, suggesting that I have said that Lewandowsky has no moral recourse but to rewrite, retract or correct his paper. More accurately, I believe that Lewandowsky has no recourse but to rewrite, withdraw or correct if he agrees with my analysis. I doubt any AGW "skeptic" will want to argue that disagreeing with an analysis by Tom Curtis is itself an immoral act - and certainly I would not either. (How does it come about that so simple a premise needs explaining?) I have left the following comment at Australian Climate Madness, and emailed Marc Morano requesting a correction. I would appreciate it if anybody who comes across a similar misrepresentation directs people to this post.
    "Your claim that, “As Tom Curtis observed, Lewandowsky has no moral alternative but to withdraw his paper” is an over interpretation of my words. It is very obvious that Lewandowsky has the very moral option of simply disagreeing with my analysis. If he disagreed, then he would be acting immorally if he did rewrite, withdraw or retract. This is a distinction you should easily be able to make. If you cannot, you are committed to the belief that every climate change “skeptic” with whom I disagree and who does not rewrite, withdraw or retract is acting immorally – a view to which I certainly do not hold."
  22. AGU Fall Meeting sessions on social media, misinformation and uncertainty
    geoffchambers @150, for the record, up until about December 2010 I was only an occasional reader of SkS, and do not recall the survey at all.
  23. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    John Hartz: Increase the wattage. It will make plants grow faster and bigger. Corollary to "Global warming will expand the surface of the planet, a good thing!"
  24. AGU Fall Meeting sessions on social media, misinformation and uncertainty
    Stephan has a new post up providing all the pertinent details enquiring minds would want to know.
  25. AGU Fall Meeting sessions on social media, misinformation and uncertainty
    geoffchambers@150 Thank you for the clarification.
  26. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Perhaps we should start a pool on when the Wattsonians will rise up in self-righteous indignation over Ari's toon and this comment thread.
  27. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    You speaketh volumes beyond words alone...
  28. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Most skeptics agree in principle on the need for a new light bulb, but believe that the modeled light output of most light bulbs is exaggerated by a factor of two.
  29. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    I don't need to change a lightbulb (often). One of my "early model" CFL bulbs gave up recently after 24 years of use, the other one (purchased at the same time) is still working ...
  30. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Another balloon: "Just follow Anthony's instructions!"
  31. Antarctica is gaining ice
    OK. Watts is claiming that a recent report by NASA shows that satellite measurements find that the Antarctic as a whole is gaining land ice mass rather than losing it as previously thought. He also has a side-swipe at skeptical science suggesting you update this post and he provides a link to this page.
  32. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Some more balloons to consider: "No can do. Changing a light bulb is part of the UN secret agenda to create a world government." "Light a candle! If candles were good enough for the Founding Fathers, they're good enough for us." "Burn some clean coal instead!" "Increae the wattage. It will make plants grow faster and bigger."
  33. Do we know when the Arctic will be sea ice-free?
    Thank you all.
  34. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    A couple of additional analyses of lighting alternatives: Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs – A Tale From Dust to Dust and LED life-cycle assessment HT to Hot Topic for pointers to those.
  35. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Laugh it up, fuzzballs....>;-D
  36. AGU Fall Meeting sessions on social media, misinformation and uncertainty
    Bob Loblaw #149 No, I did not mean to imply that anyone implied that I would not get a response. My apologies if I gave that impression. I was surprised that Cook offered to answer all my questions in a private email. I wasn’t after anything secret, but simply wanted to know if the post had gone up and if there had been any comments. The private email and the offer to tell all naturally whetted my appetite. I was sort of hoping he’d say: “Look, I’d rather this didn’t get about, but Tom Curtis tore the survey apart in the comments, so we binned them”, but no. Nada. Just the legendary Australian taciturnity when dealing with strangers. Pity.
  37. Vanishing Arctic Sea Ice: Going Up the Down Escalator
    HAHAHAHA!! I went to one of the linked posts by Watts. It's from 2008 and claims "that the recovery is at a significantly faster rate than in recent years." Clumsy old Watts hotlinked the extent graph from JAXA instead of hosting it himself. The thing is, that image is updated every day, so his post from 2008 now proudly shows a picture from 2012. "Look at the red line!"
  38. Do we know when the Arctic will be sea ice-free?
    @ Dale: Luckily SkS (via Neven) answered your question here concerning the effects of an ice free Arctic.
  39. Antarctica is gaining ice
    Interested in your response to this post on WUWT. Thanks. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/09/10/icesat-data-shows-mass-gains-of-the-antarctic-ice-sheet-exceed-losses/#more-70757
    Moderator Response: [DB] It is customary when linking to an outside document to first provide your understanding of it. Please proceed to do so.
  40. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Bob Loblaw - And we cannot make any predictions until the models of the 'speed of dark' are sufficiently robust, which won't be for decades...
  41. Philippe Chantreau at 04:23 AM on 11 September 2012
    2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Bob, that makes perfect sense. An entirely self consistent argument. It is in fact very close to the stuff we can find on the thermodynamics thread. Sigh...
  42. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Re: cartoon. Thermodynamics, schmermodynamics. You've got the physics entirely wrong. They're not even "light" bulbs, they're dark bulbs. They don't give off light, they suck out dark. Haven't you ever heard of blackbody radiation? The natural state of the world is to be filled with dark. A dark bulb lets us see by removing the dark, so it doesn't block the view any more. Proof? What does a bulb look like when it stops working? It's black - because it's full of dark. There's no more room for it to suck more dark.
  43. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Two more balloons: "Do you really want to spend trillions of dollars on a lightbulb?" and "There is only one true light, but you'll have to wait for his Second Coming to see it."
  44. Do we know when the Arctic will be sea ice-free?
    Unless you are a scholar and a well known scientist, no one may seriously listen to what you say, write or research. I am not a scientist but an electronic engineer with long years of interest in geology and history. This perhaps prepared me to look into multi-disciplinary branches of science, geology, history and planetary system simultaneously and address the cause behind 1) more than 10% drop in the magnetic field, 2) doubling of the number of quakes above 6 Richter in the past 5 years, 3) thermosphere increased influence on the temperature belts, 4) the planetary warming on Earth and on Mars, 5) the slowdown of the spinning speed of Venus and Saturn. Upon pulling all lines into cause and effect chain I was able to estimate the like of “Earth Changes” including the melting of the Arctic ice cap, the slowdown of Earth spin speed, the complete “Climate Exchange”; where some regions will get warmer while others will turn colder to name a few. The history records that are kept in ancient text, petroglyph and the history citation within the holy books helped to establish a timeline for the cycle of Earth Changes of 3562 years. (-Snip-) I bet that you must have guessed it already that the answer to the complete ice cap melting is 2017! I wish scholars and scientists such as Ian Allison, Nathan Bindoff, Robert Bindschadler, Peter Cox, Nathalie de Noblet-Ducoudré, Matthew England, Jane Francis, Hans Joachim Schellnhuber and many others who authored the 2009 Copenhagen Diagnosis report to come to read what I summarized on the above mentioned website but more important is to debate and raise all questions and I am glad to respond as much. I hope many of them do visit skeptical science, as I failed miserably to reach scientists through the normal email channel ! I believe in what Einstein had once said, that imagination is more important than knowledge. I add that humility brings us wings to help to rise.
    Moderator Response: [DB] Link-snipped. Please return to your earlier comment and answer the questions put to you there.
  45. Do we know when the Arctic will be sea ice-free?
    Dale@57 If you compare the two scenarios of say a square mile with ice and a square mile without. The scenario with ice gets the energy away from the planet more efficiently than if the sea is warmed and has to radiate IR into the atmosphere. So basically, even if energy is emitted from the oceans, it is less efficient than reflecting it, which means warner conditions than if you had ice.
  46. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Another missing balloon in the toon: "Are you crazy? We will not replace incandescent bulbs with CFLs or LEDs!"
  47. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Heh. "If God had wanted us to live in the Light, than He would have made some well-lit Garden for us, um, ah, somewhere..."
  48. New research from last week 36/2012
    Re "socioeconomic carbon sinks," I wonder if we could bribe our way out of this problem by promising to continue paying hydrocarbon companies for their product, converting it to polyethylene* and then reburying instead of burning it? I'm fairly sure we'd see a large segment of climate change denial wither away if such an agreement were made. A pragmatic arrangement, sort of like "Danegeld." Various thermodynamic problems with that, I suppose, unless we used solar steam generators for the PE production process. Also, would it be ethical to bribe our way out of planetary destruction? *Nature's Plastic!
  49. 2012 SkS Weekly Digest #36
    Awesome cartoon. Except he forgot "Light bulbs violate the second law of thermodynamics."
  50. New research from last week 36/2012
    The link to the text of Polvani and Solomon isn't working for me. The following link does: http://www.columbia.edu/~lmp/paps/polvani+solomon-JGR-2012.pdf

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