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  1. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Steven Baudoin, USA. If I had seen those comments posted publicly, I would have thought some of them were from the Onion. Hard to believe people can be so vitriolic over scientific research.
  2. Seagrasses Can Store as Much Carbon as Forests
    The good news it that sea grass thrives in slightly more acidic water and, as noted in the article, is relatively good at sequestering carbon. Moreover, beds of sea grass provide a nursery for many fish species and an essential food source dugong. The bad news is that human activity is diminishing the extent and health of sea grass beds, primarily through water pollution. What may also be bad news is the ability of sea grass to survive ocean warming and continue to sequester carbon. Warming oceans will certainly reduce the amount of CO2 stored in seawater and may cause its release from seabed soil. Has NSF research investigated the effect of increased ocean temperature on sea grass health and stability of carbon sequestered by it? Someone should.
  3. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Don't listen to the cowardly threats of these mercenaries of the oil and resources industries. Earth's future depends on people like you providing facts that expose the propaganda of powerful evil corporations for what it is -selfish greed. In Australia recently, a past prime minister (a "closet denier") speaking at the launch of an new Ian Plimer book, objected to the term "Denier" being used to describe those who reject anthropogenic global warming, because of it's past association with Hitlers evil attempted extermination of a race of people. On the contrary, I think it is a very apt term to describe those, who through misrepresentation of scientific facts cause the continuation of CO2 generating industries, with the near certainty of destroying Earths habitable environment. Billions of people, are expected to be unable to survive resulting climate change over the next 100 or so years - not to mention the devastating effect on animal life. Hitler's extermination efforts pale in comparison!! Keep up the good work - the essential truth must prevail. John Bloomfield, Australia.
  4. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Thank you Phil Jones for having the courage to continue with your valuable work. Tim Wilcox. UK
  5. It's Urban Heat Island effect
    koyaanisqatsi I infer from the lack of the term 'adjusted' (figure 1 - basic) that Jones et al is comparing unadjusted rural and urban temperature stations and finding little difference. "[NASA GISS] found in most cases, urban warming was small and fell within uncertainty ranges. Surprisingly, 42% of city trends are cooler relative to their country surroundings..." So it reads as if A) UHIE is small and B) UHIE is corrected for, although though the aggregate of the corrections makes a negligible difference to the temperature record anyway.
  6. Michaels and Cato Unwittingly Accept the Climate Threat
    BTW, I do realize that some conservatives will still see Cap and Trade mean too much government intervention in markets. Fine....you can't win them all with one strategy...but hey....it's Ronnie Reagan...the Gipper. It's hard for conservatives to call him a socialist leader who was seeking one world government.
  7. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Andreas Kieser, Germany
  8. Michaels and Cato Unwittingly Accept the Climate Threat
    I don't think it matters if other policies for reducing acid rain would have been just as effective. What matters on this point is that Cap and Trade uses market forces and was implemented by the Republican Party (i.e. Conservatives). One of the key problems we face is dealing with those whose ideologies may lead them to doubt global warming because they believe/have been told it is only a way to implement government based (taxes and/or straight regulation) solutions. If it can be shown that market or conservative initiated solutions can be used, those who are open to rational argument may be more open to the science. This doesn't mean a variety of methods cannot be be effective but anything that gets a reluctant person to be more open to the science is a worthwhile point to make.
  9. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    My real name is known by the hosts of this site and the recent hackers of this site, so I don't see it necessary to sign it here too. Still waiting my first hatemail by these 18th century engineers (they must be for it seems they do not understand the principles of steam engines), whose mentality (in the nastier sense) you've had the displeasure to experience. Strenght to you. jyyh, Finland.
  10. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Wayne Fowler, Canada
  11. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    June 26, 2012: 109ºF in Austin, TX, the highest temperature ever recorded for the month of June. On the same day, I attended a hearing of the Energy Commitee of the Texas State Legislature where oil, gas, and coal extraction were discussed, along with fracking techniques and pipeline construction. These wealthy men (and a smattering of women) egged each other on in an air-conditioned room, while most in attendance were wearing wool suits. NO ONE mentioned anthropogenic climate change. As I stepped out into the heat, I realized that I had never seen anything more absurd and at the same time more dangerous in all my life. Dr. Jones, we need your voice now more than ever. Craig Nazor, Austin, Texas
  12. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Jim Java, NY, USA
  13. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    BJ Chippindale, NZ Dr Jones, you have done well, and the future will know you gave us the best science you could give.
  14. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    We should all endeavour to keep up with the Phil Joneses of this world. Tristan Gall Brisbane, AU
  15. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Neal J. King Munich, GERMANY
  16. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Richard Mercer California, USA
  17. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    John Garrett California, USA
  18. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    I recently sent a personal email to Mike Mann to thank him for all his efforts, both in climate studies, and in combating the "denialist" crowd. Just did the same for Phil Jones. Pleased to add my name to this list also. Thanks for the good work, Phil! Dave Willis, Quebec, Canada
  19. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Chris Hawkshaw, Sydney, Australia
  20. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Thank you for your courage. Teresa Baker, USA
  21. littlerobbergirl at 11:57 AM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Christina West, Hampshire, England. Oh, brave new world!
  22. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Good luck, Larry Johnson Illinois, USA
  23. It's Urban Heat Island effect
    I'll think on this. But I'm confused about something. In the Basic explanation of why UHI Effect is not influencing temperature trends, it states "the difference between ideal rural sites compared to urban sites in temperature trends has been very small." [2nd Paragraph, just before Figure 1] In the Intermediate explanation, it is stated [in the First Paragraph] "They compare urban long term trends to nearby rural trends. They then adjust the urban trend so it matches the rural trend. The process is described in detail on the NASA website (Hansen 2001)." So of course the urban and rural trends *should* be the same, because of the adjustment. Am I missing the obvious?
  24. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    The truth wil eventually win out.. Peter Dyson, Victoria, Australia
  25. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Was at UEA in early 1990s - Nice town Norwich. Duncan Farrow, Perth Western Australia
  26. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Lloyd Flack, East Ryde NSW, Australia
  27. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Bob Warneke, Austin, TX, USA
  28. citizenschallenge at 10:27 AM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Peter Miesler Colorado, USA hang in there Dr. Jones
  29. technophile50 at 10:23 AM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Brian Dodge, Hillsborough, North Carolina - where they're commanding the sea not to rise nonlinearly.
  30. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Ray Mainsbridge Australis
  31. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Thanks to Skeptical Science for this initiative, and every good wish to Phil Jones and colleagues. Noel Barton Australia
  32. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    David Huber, USA
  33. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Connor Jolley Australia
  34. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Anthony Enrione, UK.
  35. Philippe Chantreau at 09:45 AM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Philippe Chantreau, United States.
  36. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Bryson Brown, Canada
  37. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    In support of science in public policy, and those like Phil Jones who (in spite of those who dislike the implications) make that science accessible to the public and to policymakers. Steve Latham, Canada
  38. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    In less than a generation your detractors will look, at the very least, bloody silly; at worst willfully and criminally negligent – to *everyone*. To those who have done any proper reading on the subject they look a combination of the two *now* Keep up the essential work. many thanks. Joe Cushley, London
  39. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    We appreciate your efforts. Paul Magnus
  40. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Andy Skuce, British Columbia, Canada
  41. Michaels and Cato Unwittingly Accept the Climate Threat
    To "ralbin" on cap and trade, just a point of logic, if a cap and trade policy is instituted then the price of abatement is unexpectedly less, that does not reduce the effectiveness of the cap and trade as without it the abatement may have not been tried therefore the cheapness never realised. In fact the cap and trade success is not 'confounded", it is strengthened. Whether regulatory control is better has to take into account the reduced political support for it so reducing the likelihood that it will be imposed. No doubt the solution will vary from case to case, and each measure adds to the general success, (or lowers the speed to more warming, more properly said) but cap and trade is easier to spread across borders into different political realities as it uses common principles, - ie money etc. Geoff Thomas.
  42. AlwaysWatching at 08:56 AM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Lyndon While, Australia
  43. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Tony Clifford-Winters, France
  44. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Colin Sharples, New Zealand (Ph.D. UEA, 1996)
  45. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    My heartfelt thanks Malcolm Griffin, Canada
  46. Glaciers are growing
    wealthychef @41, figure 1 in the basic article represents a full rebutal of the fake skeptic claims. If you look at it, you will see a gradual loss of glacial ice from 1850, which represents the ongoing glacial retreat for some glaciers since the little ice age. However, two features stand out. First is the much more rapid loss of ice since 1970. If glacial ice loss simply represented the restoration of equilibrium after the LIA, glacial ice loss would gradually slow as it approached that equilibrium. Hence, the recent very rapid ice loss shows clearly that the cause is a recent warming rather than the warming that accompanied the end of the LIA. Second is the brief accumulation of glacial ice from 1950-1970. Global temperatures actually cooled slightly during that interval, primarily due to the rapid accumulation of sulphate (SO4) in the atmosphere from the burning of coal. The important factor here, however, is that that brief cooling could not have resulted in an overall gain in glacial ice unless the glacial ice was very close to equilibrium. That gain in glacial ice therefore contradicts the fundamental assumption of the fake skeptic argument, which is that glacial ice balance is far from equilibrium, and continues to be lost because of a warming episode that ended over a century ago. Typical of fake skeptic arguments, the argument presented at climate-skeptic.com is depends on superficial knowledge of the data to retain its plausibility.
  47. Charles08537024 at 08:14 AM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    Charles Scott, Canada
  48. John E. Pearson at 08:12 AM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    John E. Pearson Los Alamos, NM
  49. john mfrilett at 08:09 AM on 1 July 2012
    Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    John Rilett Canada
  50. Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
    James Dunlap Virginia, USA

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