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1. Composer99 at 06:04 AM on 10 July, 2012
   Lots of great stuff in here. Makes me wish I had subscriptions to all these journals.
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2. DSL at 07:05 AM on 10 July, 2012
   Ari, I really appreciate the work. It is a tremendous help when out in the trenches trying to convince people that they do have time and brains enough to engage the science. It's often just extremely difficult to push them over that gap between assuming understanding and engaging in the learning process. Assumption is so comfortable. Yet when the summary is there right in front of you, it's also tough not to indulge in curiosity and begin walking the path (SkS is the best walking stick in climate science).
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3. jmorpuss at 14:53 PM on 10 July, 2012
   I thought this would fit into cosmic ray section It's a paper accepted back in 2000 http://www.utdallas.edu/physics/pdf/Tin_rev.pdf
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4. Ari Jokimäki at 15:45 PM on 10 July, 2012
   Thanks for the comments. Note that I only included links to abstracts of these papers. Some of them might have full texts available online, so it might be good idea to do Internet search on the papers you find interesting. #3 jmorpuss: Above list of papers is from 2010 and 2011 only, so I have made no effort to include earlier papers here (as a sidenote, above list also represents only a small fraction of cloud related papers published in 2010-2011). Some of the earlier papers can be found from some cloud related paperlists in my blog: Papers on global cloud cover trends Papers on cloud feedback observations Papers on the non-significant role of cosmic rays in climate
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5. curiousd at 05:40 AM on 11 July, 2012
   Since the latest Hanson and Sato (the one this forum received as a pre print) does an experimental fit to past ice age data and gets a tremendous agreement between past temperatures and predictions based on best fit to short term climate sewnsitivity fitting only two parameters (CO2/methane), and short term includes clouds, why does this result not lay all the cloud uncertainty to rest right there? H@S get 3.0 plus or minus 0.5 degrees for CO2 short term sensitivity which is close to the most common value for the simulations. To me, that latest H@S fit is kind of a game changer. It is as good as one gets for fitting an unknown structure to extended x-ray absorption edge fine structure (EXAFS), by fitting, say, a deBye Waller term and one bond length. The garden variety physicist would believe this latest H@S more than any simulation.
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6. curiousd at 05:56 AM on 11 July, 2012
   On a different topic, can someone recommend the best place to really learn about the magic Oxygen 18 proxy? It is probably in a text book and if so I would gladly buy the text book no matter the cost. I do dig two things: 1. Since Oxygen 18 is heavier than Oxygen 16, the Oxygen 18 will tend to precipitate out faster from arctic air that blows toward warmer climes. Right?? 2. One can think of the oxygen 18 as a mass on a spring within ice, and since the mass of the 18 exceeds that of the 16, the classical omega = sqrt k/m is less for 18, which means the zero point energy, as you cool down so that the equipartition theorem no longer works, will be smaller so that 18 will evaporate somewhat less readily. But if important, this effect might depend on the ice temperature,right? But given my broad brush stroke understanding, this topic looks really complex. Why does O 18 work for plants/animals growing underneath the ocean, for instance? Book or URL, anyone recommend, to learn more??
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7. scaddenp at 06:16 AM on 11 July, 2012
   Curiousd - the primary differentiation of the oxygen isotopes is due to preferential evaporation of O16 from sea surface, followed by preferential condensation of O18. Plants/animals can only use the atoms in their immediate neighbourhood, so they reflect the seawater. A good starting resource would be here. Useful papers linked as well as the Bradley textbook.
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8. skywatcher at 09:11 AM on 11 July, 2012
   Curiousd: I'd also maybe recommend Lowe and Walker's "Reconstructing Quaternary Environments", thought it's a little older now. It's an undergraduate textbook so may not go into the detail you'd like, but it has some basic material on oxygen isotopes, as applied to ice core and marine sediments (amongst a wealth of material about all manner of palaeoenvironmental reconstruction and chronology). No more than a few pages, but may have pointers to more detailed material?
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